I started noticing Indie Tarot in some of the popular tarot groups on Facebook and I was definitely interested. She is pursuing a Doctorate in Psychology and she's a tarot reader? What a great combination! When you ask most tarot readers what other sciences go with Tarot one of the first disciplines you would think of is psychology (Jung and such). So it was awesome to see someone putting that into practice! I caught up with her and was able to have her answer a few questions for me!
How did you get started with Tarot?
My intrigue about tarot sparked, when I went in for tarot reading, for the first time ever!
This was sometime in 2007, and I was in the middle of a very emotionally challenging and difficult life-phase. There was truly a need for spiritual grounding and healing in my life & and I found myself seeking and making acquaintances with a lot of healers and regressionists…and was also seeking a tarot reader, when I heard of this system of divination & healing.
It was through my mom’s friend that I was introduced to this young reader in the city of Mumbai (India). That’s how I first laid eyes on a tarot deck!!....& in case you are wondering, it was the Rider Waite Universal!
A few days later, I just couldn’t stop thinking about that colourful deck of cards …and felt an inexplicable attraction and pull towards them! So I went ahead and purchased the Universal Rider Waite! And that’s where my journey with the tarot began!!
I started reading books, started reading for myself. Then gradually felt the confidence to read for family and my friends….and for a long time… in fact, for the MAJOR chunk of my life with tarot- I have read exclusively for family members and friends and friends of friends and friends of friends of friends…
I was encouraged by one of my close friend for whom I had read for several times to start offering my services as professional reader…and so I did... and here I am!
What is your favorite thing about Tarot?
That it never gets old! And I mean that in two contexts…
One….The spark of the relationship with the cards never gets old. The spark never fades. Even after many years of studying and working with the tarot, the cards continue to reveal newer facets and newer layers of meanings to me. As I continue to evolve and understand myself, so does my understanding of the cards and my relationship with it deepens and evolves. And THAT continues to keep me totally mesmerized with the tarot’s never ending depth of wisdom.
And two… how the JOY of doing a tarot reading never fades! That’s my favourite state of being – right amidst creating a tarot reading for someone, and then witnessing to the effects of these readings.
What deck(s) do use?
I have quite a collection of tarot decks I must say! And I must really get down to filming that “updated” tarot deck collection video that stays on my to-do list…!!
But, answering your question- I do not have one specific deck or a few specific ones that I work with really.
Even before doing a tarot reading, for someone, I do not decide beforehand what deck to work with.
I just let the moment when I begin the reading decide for me, by drawing my attention to whatever deck I feel would be right for that reading and for that individual.
But some of my old and new favourites (apart from the classic Rider Waite) are:
Does your spiritual path come into your relationship with tarot?
I think, that we all are – whether consciously or unconsciously, walking a spiritual path, with transcendence - being the end destination for our Souls. We all might be on different kinds of path, and perhaps we are all at different levels and different points in this journey, but the goal remains the same. The quest for Transcendence…or Moksha - as it called in the Indian Hindi language.
But attainment of MOKSHA, does not come from escaping of life of course….in fact it comes from a deep engagement with & understanding and discerning of it. The better you get at this engagement, the more you learn to own your Soul Sovereignty within this connected cosmos we are all a part of.
And for me, the tarot has been my tool of choice for deepening my understanding of life- as the spiritual school that it really is.
Tarot connects harmoniously with the Hindu scriptures and their spiritual teachings, such as those in the Bhagvad Gita and The Ramayana, with the Spiritual teachings of the Bible, with Buddhism and with almost every well-written spiritual & self-help book out there today.
Tarot has help me unfold my spiritual path- through the process of healing for myself as well as others, which is an important aspect of any spiritual progress on any “type” of spiritual path..
Being a student of Psychology, do you find that tarot and psychology come together?
I will give you an analogy for this one…
IF Tarot and Psychology were to be people, CHEFS to be more precise…I would see these as two different chefs as having their own styles and approaches – but working in the same kitchen with access to the same ingredients!!
They each just use their own individualized methods and techniques, to cook up very similar (if not the exact same) food for the wanting souls!
Each Chef has its own perceived merit points & demerit points of course and whoever’s style of cooking you prefer of course, will determine where you go for your soul-food.
That’s exactly how I feel about these two areas of study and therapies. Very connected. Very much operating in the same realm and their end goals of healing line up extremely well too. After all, a lot of philosophical thought that modern tarot readers like us are in love with- comes from psych theories… and how can we forget Carl Jung’s direct contribution to tarot too! So, definitely they are very connected…
Clinical cases of abnormal behaviour based very much on brain physiology however, is like that one section within the kitchen that would ONLY be open to the Psych Chef, for now…
But in many areas of counselling, tarot has already opened its arms wide and accepted psychology as a big contributor! The acceptance of tarot as a tool in psychological practice, is slowly but steadily changing too. The door is not as wide open on this side…but its slowly creaking open. For sure!
Are you going to use Psychology in your practice?
I already do actually!!
I combine the skills I learn as a counsellor, with my tarot readings to the extent that the event of a tarot reading allows.
And I am also thinking of opening up an option for Skype Readings, which will help me harness the power of those skills better with my clients… and I do think those are fantastic contributors to the reader that I am ..
They even influence how I actually read the cards, how I am not afraid of considering the minute details, how I like to see a holistic picture of the client mapped out in the cards and outside and how I approach readings- specifically calling it the “humanistic” approach- ALL an influence of my psych training…
But, the bigger question for me is – will I be able to bring in TAROT in my psychology practice someday? I do still think that the structures of both these formats of counselling, have their own distinct differences and despite their shared goals they each are very much contained within their assigned separate boundaries, for the large part. And I have immense and equal respect for both, really….
Currently, I am very inspired by Dr. Arthur Rosengarten, a clinical psychologist and author of the well-loved book – Tarot and Psychology. As a psychologist who also includes tarot with his practice –what with his Wheel of Tarot Cards and specific spreads and techniques…. Dr. Rosengarten has opened my eyes to a lot of therapeutic possibilities…but as of now, I am personally still exploring!
But I want to… I truly want to marry to two and work with them as a couple- in BOTH my roles!
How does your family feel about you reading tarot?
My parents have been my supporters from day one. My mom was one of my first querents ever… and she continues to be my querent to this day.
My Dad and brother and now my Husband too – are eager querents as well… and my BIG supporters in this life-long venture!!
I am lucky to have them all as my personal band of cheerleaders!
Does your culture come into play with your tarot practice?
Good question!! Made me think and discern my thoughts before I could answer how I feel! I would think Yes… and No…
Let me try and explain my thoughts around this…
Cultural experiences and influences- make us who we are… so of course, one might find me very Indian in one way or very Canadian in one way or ther other… …And perhaps these cultures also define my everyday choices, like that of clothing and personal style and accent and my daily food and home décor etc, all that might make up the kind of personal vibe I put forth and so these influences definitely become a part of everything I do ….perhaps even tarot!!
And I also say NO, because consciously I don’t try to add a cultural flavour to my image as a reader or to my practice itself… I just bring who I am, and what I have to the table!
But I like the various tarot decks that have been birthed into this world to reflect the different cultures they come from! The Sacred India Tarot, for example – is SO Indian!! - both culturally and religiously… and since I am born an brought up surrounded by various stories in that tarot- I quite enjoy it!
So perhaps the reader’s culture and how it makes them unique does come into play, don’t you think?
"You can not know what light is if you have never experienced darkness". -Unknown
Many people gasp in horror (well maybe not horror, but they don't like it) when they see cards like Death, the Devil and the Tower. And understandably so, I mean, LOOK AT THEM!
The Grim Reaper, fire, destruction, chains, I mean, I get. It's terrifying. But people are usually very surprised when I say that these cards can be some of the most exciting and life changing cards in the whole tarot deck. I look at things this way: if you are getting wonderful beautiful cards like The Star, The Sun, and other cards that are traditionally looked at as "good cards", there is nothing to do. Nothing needs to change. But when you get cards like the Tower, Death, and the The Devil, they force you to look at yourself and your situation and come to some hard but honest realizations. Let me show you what I mean.
Now The devil is talks about about lies, addiction, vices, materialism and over-indulgence. What are the benefits of this card? Well one thing I like about the devil is that it serves as a warning in may cases. It can be a warning not to become too obsessed or too concerned with what is on the surface. Another thing the Devil can represent is lust, and in some situation and surrounded by right cards, it can mean AMAZING SEX. Oh yeah, I said it. That good good! And most people LOVE to hear that (The Devil in the Gilded Tarot looks like he should be in Magic Mike so thinking about that Devil in a sexual situation isn't hard).
And we have now arrived at my favorite card in the whole tarot. Death! Ah look at that bag of bones. Scary huh? The way we view death in the Western World is usually in a way that is frightening and terrible. But honestly, for most spiritual people, we view death as the next frontier, the next phase or the next journey. Death is a transformation, a transition, usually onto another plain. When Death comes up in a reading, I usually let clients know that something is ending so that something new can begin.There is life after death, and amazing experiences waiting for us on the other side.
I know what your saying, "How is she going to justify this one?". All those people screaming, jumping out of out of a burning tower, pretty bad right? Well let me explain. The Tower is all about destruction, disaster. a breakdown of beliefs and constructs. Now this can be traumatic for some but for others it can be a serious wake up call.
"Sometimes you just need to breakdown to have all the pieces you need to build yourself up again."- Unknown
Things usually break down for a reason. Maybe you weren't managing things very well to begin with, or maybe you have been trying to keep up with an illusion that needed to end for your well-being. Either way, the things that are meant to breakdown were not things that were working for you. Look at The Tower as a blessing from Spirit. As hard as it is to know a storm is coming, take solace in the fact that storms never last forever.
What are some of your takes on these cards? Let me know!
So I'm a tarot card reader who lives in Central New Jersey. I didn't grown up in a house full of people doing divination, and none of my close friends, while they are super supportive of what I do, really understand what I do. I don't have a lot of people to talk to about frustrating/amazing interactions with clients, weird card combinations, how I sometimes still get confused about court cards (is this about a person or a situation?!) and anything else that has to do with tarot. That is exactly why I have made tons of tarot friends through the power of the internet. So when I found out that the tart group I was apart of online had convention, I decided I would attend one. I went to my first Tarot Convention in October 2014 and I was super nervous. I was thinking on the way there, "Um... why am I even going to this?". I'm what they call a "social introvert". I'm great and fun, loud and crazy around my friends, but get me around a bunch of strangers and I suddenly forget how to speak and what to do with my hands. But 2014 I deemed "The Year I Do a Lot Of Things That Will Make Me Uncomfortable" so I made myself get on that plane and go to Dallas. And what happened? I HAD A GREAT TIME!!! To just spend time with people who "get me" and just marinate in the knowledge and experience of other readers is so awesome. Now I'm addicted! I honestly wish I could go to every get together of the tarot minds, but alas, I can not. But I do hope that every year I can try and go to a different one, because they are all different and interesting in their own ways. Have you ever been to a tarot convention? Or if you are into some other form of spirituality (yoga, dowsing, astrology, etc.) and wonder why going to some kind of meeting with the minds will benefit you? Here are some reasons you should go to a Tarot Convention.
-Travel: You get to go somewhere you've never been. I don't know if your like me, but I love to travel. Whether I'm staying in the US or going outside of it, the world is huge and you should go see it.
-Meet tarot friends: Made a bunch of friends on the internet? Religiously read someone's blog? Obsessed with someone's tarot style? Here is your chance to make your virtual friends real friends! You will be attending classes and lectures, but you are also going to have tons of free time to mingle and talk to people who are just as enthusiastic about Tarot as you are!
-Meet your favorite readers, authors and deck creators: If your anything like me, you have a whole collection of books about tarot and a lot of them helped shape your practice into what it is today. Well guess what? Some of the people who wrote those books might be at the conference! You will get to meet them, talk to them, and tell them how much you appreciate their work.
-Shop: Oh the shopping that will be done! Save up some money so you can get some awesome stuff! Tarot decks, books, bags, and other metaphysical treasures. If the Tarot Garden is there, look out for their bargain bins. I've taken my time to look through them and made a killing!
-Learn: Learn new techniques and different ways to looking at the tarot by taking different classes and being involved in different groups. Expanding your knowledge and learning different ways to read is the best way to help yourself get deeper into your practice and if you read for others, be a more well-rounded reader for your clients.
-Network: Bring plenty of business cards! You will want to hand them out to all the people you meet. If you are looking to publish a book or create a deck, you might meet the right people right there at the
-Have fun: Just go for it and enjoy yourself!
Some Tarot Conferences you might want to check out (these are only US ones and ones that I have had experiences with/have heard great things about):
TarotCon: These are conferences put on by the Tarot Association. They are in different locations around the US and in the UK.
Readers Studio: This conference is put on by the Tarot School in Queens, NYC and occurs at the end of April.
Northwest Tarot Symposium: This conference is in Portland Oregon in Early March.
Bay Area Tarot Symposium: Put on by the Daughters of Divination in San Francisco, CA in August.
North Star Tarot Conference: This conference is in Eagan, Minnesota at the end of January.
I have always been a lover of history. To read the stories or where we have been as a human race have always fascinated me. So to my delight, one day I got an emails from Amazon which showed me "items I might like" and the Vintage Wisdom Oracle by Victoria Moseley happened to be on there. This deck looked very unique and different, full of old pictures and art from what looked like the The 20's, 40's, Victorian and Edwardian eras. These oracle cards are so beautiful, inviting and very feminine. They remind me of going to a tea party during in the spring in the English countryside.
Deck Summary: This deck was created by Victoria Moseley, and is beautiful in every way. The summary on the box says the "Vintage Wisdom Oracle deck presents 52 lavishly illustrated oracle cards infused with the beauty and inspiration of goddesses, divas and muses from bygone eras. Rich in symbolic detail, these nostalgic montages have been artfully crafted from French vintage postcards and sepia family photographs, embellished with delicate flowers and lace." This is the best description of it that pretty much anyone could give.
The Packaging: Ahhh my love for decks that come in hard boxes continues. Thank you from saving me from having to by a bag for this deck (even though I love my tarot bags!). The front of the box has some decorative silver foiling, and the picture of the "Dream" card on the front. The sepia coloring of the photo on the front realy give you a great sense of the kind of deck you are getting before you even open the box.
The Book: The book for the Vintage Wisdom Oracle is a full book that fits right inside the box, with the meanings of each card and a short forward. One thing I enjoy about the book is that instead of just having a few words for the meanings, the author gives a bit of a story about each picture and each card. Also, the meanings are deep, not just silly, frilly meanings which one might think because of the look of deck. She shows you how each card can relate to an aspect of yourself, which I liked. In the back of the book, the author actually encourages readers to use the deck without the meanings in the book and even mentions using reversals if you so please. She wants us to use our intuition more, which is one reason I personally enjoy reading with oracle cards decks. She also includes 5 spreads that could be used for this deck or really any cartomancy you might be doing which is neat
The Cardstock and Deck: The cardstock for this deck is fantastic. You would really have to do some damage to this deck before the cards ripped or anything like that. The one thing I don't like about this deck is my same problem with many oracle decks. The cards are a bit big and that makes them hard to shuffle. I'm not sure why oracle cards can't be the same size as an average tarot deck, but I have rarely seen it. Anyway, I've included a picture of my favorite cards above. While this deck is very pretty and cute, you get the sense that the woman in these pictures were fierce and fearless. They look like they were a bunch of ladies who lived their way and by their own terms. To me this deck shows how softness and daintiness does not mean weakness, but rather is another way for a woman to show her femininity her own way.
Divination Potential: This deck might be sweet and pretty, but it packs a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick full of truth. It's great for dealing with people in delicate situations, because it is very good at being honest but in a way that is easy to take.
Final Note: After getting clicking the "Buy" button to get this deck, I thought again about whether or not I was going to like this deck when I received it. I thought it might be too girly, too frivolous. I WAS SUPER WRONG. I love love this deck, and if you like a woman who shows you she can be a strong, smart badass with even getting a run in stockings, this is deck you might just love as much as I do.
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